Talk:Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Nature/Dinosaurs/es - Revision history

W126jep: /* Age of the earth */

2018-04-18T22:56:56Z

Age of the earth

Marc3: /* Age of the earth */

2018-04-18T14:02:26Z

Age of the earth

W126jep: /* Age of the earth */ new section

2018-04-17T01:37:09Z

Age of the earth: new section

W126jep at 02:47, 7 April 2018

2018-04-07T02:47:28Z

W126jep: Requirements that have more than one question

2018-04-07T02:42:05Z

Requirements that have more than one question

Marc3: /* Restructuración */ new section

2018-04-07T02:38:50Z

Restructuración: new section

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== Restructuración ==

Esta versión es diferente a la página original en inglés, para reducir la redundancia y complejidad:
* Se movió toda la clasificación de dinosaurios de ''d. Sauropodomorfos'' al inicio, para que sirva como introducción a todo el tema y se puedan entender todas las especies que se mencionan en el resto del documento.
* La sección ''d. Sauropodomorfos'' ahora solo contiene información relacionada a esta especie
* Las características distintivas de los dinosaurios ahora se mencionan en el punto ''e. Reptiles marinos y voladores'' (en lugar de la introducción) para poderlos diferenciar del resto de reptiles, evitar repetir la información, y quitarla de la primer pregunta que no tiene que ver directamente con la definición.
[[User:Marc3|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3|talk]]) 22:38, 6 April 2018 (EDT)

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	: I agree ... it would be better to omit the mention of millions of years lapses, however I think we could keep the name of the geological strata where the species have been found (this should be independent of its evolutionary interpretation, scientifically correct and at the same time not contradict the creationist statement of our church). [[User:Marc3\|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3\|talk]]) 10:02, 18 April 2018 (EDT)		: I agree ... it would be better to omit the mention of millions of years lapses, however I think we could keep the name of the geological strata where the species have been found (this should be independent of its evolutionary interpretation, scientifically correct and at the same time not contradict the creationist statement of our church). [[User:Marc3\|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3\|talk]]) 10:02, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
		+	::I have to admit that I would still feel uneasy leaving the names of the strata. These names almost by definition imply millions of years.
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		+	::I also am uneasy with 3d and the graphic there. The last part of the answer is to say that sauropods were dominant in their time, but doesn't directly relate to the question. The graphic seems to be representing this last part. Normally, having such extra info like this is great, but again, it just makes me uneasy.
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		+	::I 'll get over it, however, if you think it really does contribute to the answer in a meaningful way.. --[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 18:56, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

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	I would really hate the idea of a Pathfinder seeking out truth to see the ages of the earth typically accepted by evolutionists and jump to erroneous conclusions--[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 21:37, 16 April 2018 (EDT)		I would really hate the idea of a Pathfinder seeking out truth to see the ages of the earth typically accepted by evolutionists and jump to erroneous conclusions--[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 21:37, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
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		+	: I agree ... it would be better to omit the mention of millions of years lapses, however I think we could keep the name of the geological strata where the species have been found (this should be independent of its evolutionary interpretation, scientifically correct and at the same time not contradict the creationist statement of our church). [[User:Marc3\|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3\|talk]]) 10:02, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

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	==Requirements with more than one question==		==Requirements with more than one question==
	[[User:Marc3\|Marc3]], I like the way you handled the answers to the requirements that have two questions in them, like #3a. You keep the requirement together, but repeat the specific questions as part of the answer. I personally never liked the whole more than one question to a requirement, specifically because of things like formatting them in the Wiki. I think it would be worthwhile to go through other honors and lay out their as you have done here, if their requirements have more than one question to it. --[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2018 (EDT)		[[User:Marc3\|Marc3]], I like the way you handled the answers to the requirements that have two questions in them, like #3a. You keep the requirement together, but repeat the specific questions as part of the answer. I personally never liked the whole more than one question to a requirement, specifically because of things like formatting them in the Wiki. I think it would be worthwhile to go through other honors and lay out their as you have done here, if their requirements have more than one question to it. --[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2018 (EDT)
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		+	== Age of the earth ==
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		+	The Seventh-day Adventist church has written an [https://www.adventist.org/en/information/official-statements/statements/article/go/-/creation-the-bibles-worldview/ official statement] regarding Creation as the Biblical worldview it accepts. Although not intrinsically linked, a young earth model is typically associated with the belief of Creation.
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		+	There are several places within the Spanish side of this honor, and a few on the English side, that make references to the age of the earth and use typical old earth views, which are usually associated with evolutionist perspectives. This can be seen in certain parts throughout #3.
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		+	This honor really deals with dinosaurs, fossils, how they might have lived, and how they are classified. Since the [[Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Creationism\|Creationism]] and [[Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Fossils\|Fossils]] honors already open the door to this line of questioning for the age of the earth, I would highly and strongly recommend we take out any mention or reference of time or when the dinosaurs lived. It is not a necessary component of this particular honor and, I assume, done so on purpose.
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		+	I would really hate the idea of a Pathfinder seeking out truth to see the ages of the earth typically accepted by evolutionists and jump to erroneous conclusions--[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 21:37, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

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 * Las características distintivas de los dinosaurios ahora se mencionan en el punto ''e. Reptiles marinos y voladores'' (en lugar de la introducción) para poderlos diferenciar del resto de reptiles, evitar repetir la información, y quitarla de la primer pregunta que no tiene que ver directamente con la definición.
 [[User:Marc3|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3|talk]]) 22:38, 6 April 2018 (EDT)
 ==Requirements with more than one question==
 [[User:Marc3|Marc3]], I like the way you handled the answers to the requirements that have two questions in them, like #3a. You keep the requirement together, but repeat the specific questions as part of the answer. I personally never liked the whole more than one question to a requirement, specifically because of things like formatting them in the Wiki. I think it would be worthwhile to go through other honors and lay out their as you have done here, if their requirements have more than one question to it. --[[User:W126jep|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2018 (EDT)

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	* Las características distintivas de los dinosaurios ahora se mencionan en el punto ''e. Reptiles marinos y voladores'' (en lugar de la introducción) para poderlos diferenciar del resto de reptiles, evitar repetir la información, y quitarla de la primer pregunta que no tiene que ver directamente con la definición.		* Las características distintivas de los dinosaurios ahora se mencionan en el punto ''e. Reptiles marinos y voladores'' (en lugar de la introducción) para poderlos diferenciar del resto de reptiles, evitar repetir la información, y quitarla de la primer pregunta que no tiene que ver directamente con la definición.
	[[User:Marc3\|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3\|talk]]) 22:38, 6 April 2018 (EDT)		[[User:Marc3\|Marc3]] ([[User talk:Marc3\|talk]]) 22:38, 6 April 2018 (EDT)
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		+	==Requirements with more than one question==
		+	[[User:Marc3\|Marc3]], I like the way you handled the answers to the requirements that have two questions in them, like #3a. You keep the requirement together, but repeat the specific questions as part of the answer. I personally never liked the whole more than one question to a requirement, specifically because of things like formatting them in the Wiki. I think it would be worthwhile to go through other honors and lay out their as you have done here, if their requirements have more than one question to it. --[[User:W126jep\|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep\|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2018 (EDT)