Difference between revisions of "Talk:Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Regional"

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Is the reason for putting obsolete because we want to push for NAD requirements as priority? What should we put for examples like Table Tennis, Backpacking - Advanced and Volleyball? While these are not in the NAD, SAD and Ukraine and Interamerican all have their own versions of these honors. Which versions would we put as obsolete? Or is that only for when there is a GC or NAD version? --w126jep 13:54, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

I see this as a resource for the whole wide world. Many honors get piloted at Conf or Div level and are then adopted by SPD, NAD or GC etc, often with somewhat different more global requirements. Palms for example, created in Fiji, adopted by SPD, adopted by GC with modified requirements each time. These honors are interesting for a bunch of reasons. I might want to earn them, pilot them in another region, adopt them in another division etc and this wiki can help them become more accessible.

My thinking is that a regional honor is obsolete when it is adopted by a higher level that includes that region - so when NAD adopts Adventist Heritage after FL pilots the honor, the FL requirements go obsolete and the lower level likely stops producing the patch.

The other direction is that (mostly) SPD and (sometimes) NAD create Div specific requirements of a GC honor. This is just annoying but we do address some of these with disambig pages because they cover whole divisions, and we want to serve the whole world.

But when we have a local conf (not a Div) that creates a modified version of a long standing GC honor (backpacking), that is of little interest to the rest of the world. Why would I, in Canada, want to pursue Ukrainian backpacking when there is a GC honor for the same subject? At best the modified version might influence changes to the official requirements someday, which we would pickup. Maybe obsolete is not the best word for that? As far as I know the Ukraine is the only place with this situation and they already have their own wiki, so why would we bother with the regional variation?

Just the way I'm sorting stuff in my mind. There may be other ways of looking at this. JadeDragon 17:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

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 Is the reason for putting obsolete because we want to push for NAD requirements as priority? What should we put for examples like Table Tennis, Backpacking - Advanced and Volleyball? While these are not in the NAD, SAD and Ukraine and Interamerican all have their own versions of these honors. Which versions would we put as obsolete? Or is that only for when there is a GC or NAD version? --[[User:W126jep|w126jep]] 13:54, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
+:I see this as a resource for the whole wide world. Many honors get piloted at Conf or Div level and are then adopted by SPD, NAD or GC etc, often with somewhat different more global requirements. Palms for example, created in Fiji, adopted by SPD, adopted by GC with modified requirements each time. These honors are interesting for a bunch of reasons. I might want to earn them, pilot them in another region, adopt them in another division etc and this wiki can help them become more accessible.
+:My thinking is that a regional honor is obsolete when it is adopted by a higher level that includes that region - so when NAD adopts Adventist Heritage after FL pilots the honor, the FL requirements go obsolete and the lower level likely stops producing the patch.
+:The other direction is that (mostly) SPD and (sometimes) NAD create Div specific requirements of a GC honor.  This is just annoying but we do address some of these with disambig pages because they cover whole divisions, and we want to serve the whole world.
+:But when we have a local conf (not a Div) that creates a modified version of a long standing GC honor (backpacking), that is of little interest to the rest of the world. Why would I, in Canada, want to pursue Ukrainian backpacking when there is a GC honor for the same subject? At best the modified version might influence changes to the official requirements someday, which we would pickup. Maybe obsolete is not the best word for that? As far as I know the Ukraine is the only place with this situation and they already have their own wiki, so why would we bother with the regional variation?
+:Just the way I'm sorting stuff in my mind. There may be other ways of looking at this. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 17:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)