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| | :Requirement 7 is somewhat problematic, isn't it? There are not five species of wild antelope in North America. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 07:26, 13 February 2013 (EST) | | :Requirement 7 is somewhat problematic, isn't it? There are not five species of wild antelope in North America. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 07:26, 13 February 2013 (EST) |
| | ::Break them out of the game farm? Just kidding. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 22:41, 13 February 2013 (EST) | | ::Break them out of the game farm? Just kidding. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 22:41, 13 February 2013 (EST) |
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| − | I don't think it's valid to say that Antelopes is a prerequisite to Antelopes - Advanced. Just because it makes sense doesn't make it so. The requirements don't call it out, so I don't think we should add it as one. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 22:15, 17 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | :I can't find another example like this. How about we insert a problematic requirement? Since the advanced star is added to the basic patch, how you going to show you earned the advanced honor only? [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] ([[User talk:JadeDragon|talk]]) 22:43, 17 November 2014 (EST)
| + | I have moved the Advanced Honor prerequisites conversation to the [[Pathfinder Wiki:Community portal|Discussion]] page, where we are more likely to find it in the future. |
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| − | ::That sounds like the right way to deal with it. There is no way to show advanced sans basic in this case, but as I said, just because it makes sense doesn't mean we have license to change it. If we did, no honors would have problematic requirements. ;-) --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 22:52, 17 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | :::So is this the only Advanced honors that doesn't request the basic honor as its first requirement? --[[User:W126jep|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep|talk]]) 23:11, 17 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | ::::I thought I saw another one or two... [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] ([[User talk:JadeDragon|talk]]) 23:25, 17 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | ===these have the same issue - don't require basic as prereq:===
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Outreach/Bible_Marking_-_Advanced
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Cacti_-_Advanced
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/ADRA/Disaster_Response_-_Advanced
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Health_and_Science/First_Aid_-_Advanced definately implied though.
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Geological_Geocaching_-_Advanced
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Lifesaving_-_Advanced
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Paper_Quilling_-_Advanced
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| − | #http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Outreach/Puppetry_-_Advanced - not numbered so need to check original requirements
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| − | #Some or all the swimming honors - but you can't pass red cross levels without getting the earlier levels or testing out
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| − | #http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Ultimate_Disc_-_Advanced
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Water_Safety_Instructor_-_Advanced
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| − | :We should create a category for advanced honors not requiring the basis as a prerequisite. I could then present that to the NAD for action. A lot of them did not originate in the NAD (but some did), so the NAD would hafta forward that to the GC. BTW, These lists would be a lot easier to read if you used wiki links instead of web links. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 14:28, 18 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | ===Sequential Honors not showing at Prereqs pages sequential box:===
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| − | (need to check these later - hopefully resolved with addition of templates)
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Computer_(General_Conference) (Computers Advanced and Internet Advanced I think) and Advanced honor not showing in header.
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Currency_-_Advanced_(Canada)
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Health_and_Science/First_Aid,_Basic (nor in the header)
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Health_and_Science/First_Aid,_Standard (nor in the header)
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Music_(General_Conference)
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| − | #http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Household_Arts/Nutrition - Advanced
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| − | http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Music_-_Advanced (South_Pacific_Division)
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| − | #http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Outreach/Peace_Maker
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| − | http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Stars_-_Advanced
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| − | http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Outdoor_Leadership
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| − | http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Hiking_-_Advanced
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| − | '''es pages showing in the sequential honors'''
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Health_and_Science/First_Aid,_Standard
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| − | # http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Orienteering
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| − | Check official requirements for prereqs:
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| − | http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Scuba_Diving
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| − | :I'm going to have to change honor_desc to take an optional argument for the advanced honor for cases like these where the honor name cannot be computed (can't insert " - Advanced" before the parenthetical portion. Not easy, but I'm sure it's doable. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 14:30, 18 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | ::So then what is the difference between the [[Template:Honor prerequisite|Honor Prerequisite Template]] and the [[Template:Ay prerequisite|AY Prerequisite Template]]? If I remember correctly, the [[Template:Honor prerequisite|Honor Prerequisite Template]] was created because the [[Template:Ay prerequisite|AY Prerequisite Template]] wasn't helpful in the translation process. Does this have anything to do the sequential honors and how they are categorized? When do we use one instead of the other? --[[User:W126jep|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep|talk]]) 15:01, 18 November 2014 (EST)
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| − | :::honor_prerequisite was intended to replace ay_prerequisite, but I don't remember what the difference was, or how far along I got with honor_prereq. For now, we should proably stick with ay_prereq. I'll coax the robot into doing the replacement when it's ready. I'll add that to my todo list. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 15:18, 18 November 2014 (EST)
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