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Thanks, --Jomegat 15:00, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Thanks

Hi JadeDragon,

I'm so glad you came over here to contribute. I started the AY Honor Answer Book at Wikibooks (WB) back in 2005. It was a great place to start this project, and it thrived there for seven years. I wanted to expand it to include the AY curriculum, but AY is more overtly religious than the honors are. WB has a neutral point of view (NPOV) policy that would have precluded most of the AY material.

Then the NAD introduced Investiture Achievement, so I proposed that the NAD set up and run a wiki for the instructor's manual, and also import the honor answer book from WB to here. They agreed, and so here we are. We do not have an NPOV policy here, and we are also able to host images of the honor insignia (we could not there because the license for the insignia is not free for any purposed - it's restricted to PF ministries).

Thanks for coming over to help. Anything you can contribute to the Honors is most welcome, as are any contributions you can make to the Investiture Achievement section. I hope to continue expanding this resource in the future. I could see adding the Adventurer program as well as TLT and Master Guide material. The possibilities are endless! --Jomegat 15:00, 11 February 2013 (EST)

You have started and built a great resource! Thanks for sharing the history. Always liked Pathfinder honors.

I've contributed some sections without an account over on WB in the past (African American honor for example). I've spot checked and found the older edits were captured when you imported to the new platform. I also checked my recent edits on WB and transferred them here today.

Being able to see the patches helps motivate me to teach honors :) This resource makes it so much easier to teach and learn.JadeDragon 15:11, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Nice Work!

Your work on Investiture Achievement/Explorer/Spiritual Discovery was exceptional. I am so glad you are a contributor here. --Jomegat 08:03, 24 February 2013 (EST)

Welcome Back

It's sure nice to have you back again. I was especially glad to see that you finished off the Cattle Husbandry honor. Nice! :-) --Jomegat 22:10, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

Never owned a cow, never even eaten one. Ain't the internet grand? JadeDragon 21:25, 8 April 2014 (EDT)

I seem to be on a farming kick. Worked on Pigeon Raising. Just needs a good diagram of a wing and a bit of text on wings. Can you find something we can use without copyright issues?JadeDragon 02:10, 3 April 2014 (EDT)

Maybe this?

ACS Honors

I'm not sure that the ACS honor were created by ACS, so we might want to find a new section heading in the outreach page. My understanding of what happened was that some people from ADRA created the ADRA honors and just announced them without going through the PF organization. The NAD looked at them and had several issues - mostly relating to the fact that ADRA does not operate in the US and Bermuda. Their response was to create a set of analogous honors using ACS as the basis rather than ADRA (since ACS serves ADRA's function in the US and Bermuda). I don't know if the NAD PF organization did that, farmed it out to ACS, or just asked ACS to help with it.

I was not at the last committee meeting, but I know that the NAD decided to not offer the ADRA honors in the NAD. I don't know how that affects Canada (which as you know is in the NAD, but is served by ADRA rather than by ACS). I should dig that up. --Jomegat 12:40, 9 April 2014 (EDT)

It is a messy situation and I am not happy with where I left the page late last night. De ided to think and discuss. The great thing about a wiki is it can be changed.

I prefer a global solution that serves all Pathfinders. Right now we have valid ADRA honors with good answers that are outside the navigation system on the site. I spentt

The GC hast several hours on an answer key for an ACS honor Rural Dev. that is almost exactly the same questions as an ADRA honor with a complete key.

-GC authorized ADRA honors which remain valid in most of the world.

-SPD Div says you can apply up to two ADRA honors toward Witnessing Master (I added a not to that effect on Witnessing Master Page).

-NAD created their own version of the honors complete with new patches lacking the ADRA letters.

I think we should divide the OUTREACH page into three sections:

1. No heading, list of all outreach honors except ACS or ADRA.

2. ADRA honors authorized at the GC level (ADRA and GC symbols shown) with an explanitory note that these honors are intended for Pathfinders outside North America.

3. ACS honors authorized for the North American Division (NAD graphic and ACS graphic) and note saying these honors are intended for the NAD only.

We would incorporate all ACS and ADRA honors (as now in the wiki) into the front page alphabetical list.

We would ensure a note is placed on all ADRA honors that says they are intended for outside NAD and a link to the NAD version, and vice versa on the ACS honors cross linking to the ADRA honors.

I think this layout cleans up the situation and makes it clear to all users what they should be following.

Your thoughts? JadeDragon 15:22, 9 April 2014 (EDT)