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Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers Update and Updated Honors Workbook

Hello all,

2 questions:

1) I have 2 honors workbook, one from 2000 (or so) and one from 2014. However, there have been some new honors added since 2014 (i.e. Mobile Technology honor, in 2016). Is there an updated honor workbook coming to include the newer honors from 2014 onward, such as the Mobile Technology honor (and others)?

2) The current Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers website isn't updated to reflect a lot of the newer honors, even the 2014 Honors book. Will the Wikibooks website be updated anytime soon?

If we are to broaden our young people's minds and help them grow, us leaders to keep up with the pace and bring everything up-to-date.

Thanks for the reply! ~ Kris

Hi Kris and welcome to the Wiki! Great questions. Here are my responses, you might get other responses from others too:

1) The two workbooks you have, are they from the General Conference or from AdventSource? I ask because the GC Honors has not been updated since their last 2014 edition. However, AdventSource prints material specifically for the North American Division and usually has their material up to date, according to the NAD. I would not know when the GC plans to update their material, especially since Andrés Peralta took over as the new world leader for clubs and is still trying to learn as much as he can. Many times the GC & NAD requirements can differ, so that might also be a discrepancy you also see; this wouldn't necessarily mean one is outdated, only that different versions exist according to their region.

2) This Wiki Answer Book is actually the most updated honors resource in the world. It is comprised of volunteers within the Pathfinder community who are constantly updating the content and keeping it to the day. If you are referring to the previous Wikibooks version, that is the old site and is no longer maintained. There is a message on the front page stating that it was moved to this Wiki.

I hope that helps clarify some things for you. If you still have some doubts, express them here and myself and others will answer to the best of our knowledge! --w126jep (talk) 00:58, 26 May 2019 (EDT)

E-Honors

Hi there, It's been awhile since I have been on here. I noticed many conferences are setting up Online Pathfinder honors (Video/Slideshow) Some require registration and others are being uploaded on youtube, vimeo or other websites. I was wondering what would be the best option to have this linked into a list? Where Pathfinders can watch the video's with the registration link to the conference or something. I would love to talk more on this idea via e-mail or messenger or something else to brainstorm.

This is currently what is available online coming up. Pathfinder Calendar --Ixoekea (talk) 22:19, 11 April 2020 (EDT)

We've noticed this too, and we're exploring possibilities. If you look in User:Jomegat/Do at home we have a list we're building of honors that can be done at home. That index is in my user space right now because it's not ready for prime-time. We might feature the index on the main page, or we might create a dedicated page for it. I'd love to hear any ideas you have - you can just put ideas on this page if you want, or even prototype something in your own user space and we could discuss it there.. --Jomegat (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2020 (EDT)

What I'm wondering is I currently have a facebook group active but the amount of Honor's being videoed by different conferences is starting to become a lot. Like 3 conferences have done Peacemaking, 2 have done firesafety. There is about 20 so far in video's, with this pandemic going for awhile. I could see more and more conferences designing new video's. I know our conference is talking about it. What I am wondering is should these video's be merged into here somehow or would it be best to come up with another site all on Teaching (video's, powerpoint, etc) The video's do have registration links to the conference main site. Maybe link those video's back to here for the honor answer book. I'm just trying to figure out something to merge it all together. I'm open to any suggestions. The Calendar has been the best idea yet for whats coming. But I'm still kinda lost on a video database for the honors. I am thinking of a streaming setup for the videos. Just not sure where to start.

--Ixoekea (talk) 22:22, 12 April 2020 (EDT)

Online Honor Videos

Hi all,

My name is Pr Phil Yates from the Greater Sydney Conference (where I am one of the Youth Director and Pathfinder Director for the conference). I am so appreciative for THIS Pathfinder Website, it has helped and continues to help all of use Pathfinder Leaders down under in Australia and New Zealand.

I have started Online honors for the Australian Union Conference and am presenting honors for the British Union Conference due to this COVID-19 lockdown everywhere - below is the YouTube Channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQLzp8Fp2QbMXY8keb5rrYg?view_as=subscriber

Along with this I do a worksheet and Certificate, once the Pathfinders have show evidence of completion. We have found that a lot of clubs across Australia are using it in there Pathfinder Zoom Meeting and Pathfinders are doing the Honors in there spare time.

This channel is still in its infancy as I have only completed 5 honors - I am planning to release an honor every week. What I have done so far has received great feedback.

Below is the dropbox with the sample worksheet and certificate. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0marrqlhy2emf8b/AACuCNbWy5kUyQ11S6jmUCCGa?dl=0

I would be interested in you feedback.

I would also be keen to help you all as much as I can.

Blessings to all Phil

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-:Hi Haryl,
-:I don't have enough information to give you a reason for this.  It's possible the IP address has been blocked.  Can you tell me the IP address of Olney SDA so I can look into it?  If that's the issue, you should be able to create an account from elsewhere and login with it anywhere.  Or if the IP has been blocked, I could look into unblocking it (though if it is blocked, it would have been for a reason). --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 18:28, 19 January 2013 (EST)
-==Adventurer Awards==
+== Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers Update and Updated Honors Workbook ==
-Is there any plan to bring over the Adventurer/Eager Beaver/Little Lamb material from Wikibooks too?  I don't know how to import, but I a working through Little Lambs with my girl now and adding missing info as we go on Wikibooks. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 17:36, 25 February 2013 (EST)
+Hello all,
-:I brought this up to the NAD when I proposed having them host this material here.  They said "Let's wait and see how it goes."  I will bring it up in Lincoln next week, because I think it's going pretty well.  Other things I would like to add to this Wiki are the PF Staff Manual and MG Manual.  There are so many advantages to hosting this material on a wiki that it seems an obvious move to me.  In fact, if you have a copy of the old AY Instructor's Manual, they have a note in there explaining why the pages are numbered the way they are, and why it is in a 3-ring binder - so that people could ''add things to it.''  A Wiki is really the ideal way to do that, as people from all over the world can share ideas, vs individual directors keeping their own notes with no way of sharing that info.
+questions:
-:As for importing, you have to be an admin for that to be an available option.  --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 21:41, 25 February 2013 (EST)
+) I have 2 honors workbook, one from 2000 (or so) and one from 2014. However, there have been some new honors added since 2014 (i.e. Mobile Technology honor, in 2016). Is there an updated honor workbook coming to include the newer honors from 2014 onward, such as the Mobile Technology honor (and others)?
-:The Wikibooks project is also the precursor to what exists here. The more up-to-date info as far as Pathfinder stuff is listed here. I really hope the NAD does approve the move to host Adventurer/Eager Beaver/Little Lamb Awards here as well. It would help to have it all in one place. -- [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 08:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)
+) The current Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers website isn't updated to reflect a lot of the newer honors, even the 2014 Honors book. Will the Wikibooks website be updated anytime soon?
-==Staff Manuals?==
+If we are to broaden our young people's minds and help them grow, us leaders to keep up with the pace and bring everything up-to-date.
-Any news on whether adding the staff manuals here has been approved? I hope so! It will make it so much easier to find information instead of having to wait to flip through the Manual when you are at a meeting. [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 08:28, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
+Thanks for the reply!
-:The NAD moves deliberately rather than quickly.  When things settle down (for me) I'll bring it up. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 20:07, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
+~ Kris
-: Awesome. It would be great to have it all in one place. Hope things settle down for you soon! [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 22:43, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
-==Registered Users==
+:Hi Kris and welcome to the Wiki! Great questions. Here are my responses, you might get other responses from others too:
-From my short time here it seems that registered users make 95% of the real edits. This spam stinks. Can be just leave it on registered users and maybe even expand the question from links only to add edits? [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 18:05, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
-:Yeah, the spam was rather rank.  I started a new job today and didn't have time to deal with it.  I thought disabling anon edits would be the way to go.  I'm hesitant to make that permanent because of the 5% (maybe less) of legitimate edits made by IP users.  I will NOT turn that on again until I am able to monitor it closely though.
-:I'm not sure what you meant by the "expand the question" remark, so clarification would be very helpful to me. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 20:01, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
+:1) The two workbooks you have, are they from the General Conference or from Advent''Source''? I ask because the GC Honors has not been updated since their last 2014 edition. However, Advent''Source'' prints material specifically for the North American Division and usually has their material up to date, according to the NAD. I would not know when the GC plans to update their material, especially since Andrés Peralta took over as the new world leader for clubs and is still trying to learn as much as he can. Many times the GC & NAD requirements can differ, so that might also be a discrepancy you also see; this wouldn't necessarily mean one is outdated, only that different versions exist according to their region.
-::Congrats on the new job!  I mean set things so that every edit (not just ones with an external link) require typing SDA.  That will kill off all the automated edits, and all the spam I killed had to be automated and completely pointless.  [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 21:05, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
+:2) This Wiki Answer Book is actually the most updated honors resource in the world. It is comprised of volunteers within the Pathfinder community who are constantly updating the content and keeping it to the day. If you are referring to the previous [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book Wikibooks] version, that is the old site and is no longer maintained. There is a message on the front page stating that it was moved to this Wiki.
-:::Thanks.  I don't think the MediaWiki software (which is what we are using) has a setting like that.  But I'll look into it.  As for today's spam storm, I'm pretty sure we were hit by a zombie network - PC's that have been infected by a virus and now answer to a botmaster.  I would expect we were not the only ones hit.  I blocked 23 IPs.  --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 21:29, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
-::::Ah - yes, it does allow that.  I just have to configure it.  I'll work on that tonight. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 21:39, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
-:::::Testing as an anonymous user...
-::::::And... it works. :-)
-:The captcha will only be asked for anon users.  Registered users have "skip captcha" permissions.  The anonymous masses are now allowed to edit this wiki again, but only after correctly answering the captcha.  We'll see how that goes. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 21:47, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
-My goodness! glad you guys were around to catch it. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know. [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 22:42, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
-:I'm loving the new protection level.  No SPAM now and as a registered user no need to answer the CAPTCHA question.  It is a wonderful thing.  BTW I answered a few remaining questions so was able to move Nature Honors to 100% !!!  Thanks to everyone who worked so hard on this section (I just did a little of it). [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]]
+:I hope that helps clarify some things for you. If you still have some doubts, express them here and myself and others will answer to the best of our knowledge! --[[User:W126jep|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep|talk]]) 00:58, 26 May 2019 (EDT)
-::Thanks for suggesting the fix.  I am pretty pleased that the spam level dropped to zero.  I had forgotten that I had installed the ConfirmEdit extension (which is what asks the SDA question).  As for the Nature category, thanks for bringing it back to 100%.  I had gotten it there a couple of years ago, but then the NAD introduced several new honors.  But since the Wiki is an official arm of the NAD now, it should never be less than 100% again for very long. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 07:28, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
-==Miscategorized?==
-I believe that the childcare honor is incorrectly catagorized in this wiki.  The background of the patch matches Outreach not Health and Science which is were it sits now.  It also seems a better fit in outreach along side sign language and other service oriented honors. I do not know how to move it.  [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 16:41, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
-:You were right.  The GC has it categorized with Outreach.  The NAD always put these under "Division" honors which I never liked.  I had to guess which one it was way back when the wiki was set up, and I got it wrong.  I have moved it.  --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]]
-http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Outreach/Cultural_Heritage may be incorrectly categorized as well. It is a gray background reflecting its inclusion in Heritage. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 06:15, 20 May 2013 (EDT)
+== E-Honors ==
-:The Heritage category does not yet officially exist, even though there are some honors that have been approved and are in that category.  I don't think that situation will change until next February at the earliest.  I don't think we should move any existing honors into it until the NAD makes a decision.  I can well imagine several honors that belong here:
-*All the "Lore" honors
-*African American Heritage in the NAD & Advanced
-*Anything else with "heritage" in the title.
-:I think the greyness of its background is an artifact of photography rather than an intentional color change.  As far as I know, there are no honor patches yet with an intentionally grey background. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:47, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
-::Not disagreeing with you, but I know an elderly MG with gray background vocational patches. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
-::Another complication is that the Cultural Heritage honor is an SPD honor, so the NAD doesn't really have a say in what color its background is, or what category it belongs to.  Has the SPD adopted a Heritage category? --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:49, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::Not according to their sites as far as I can find.[[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
-::: According to the GC, it belongs in Arts & Crafts. http://gcyouthministries.org/Ministries/Pathfinders/Honors/tabid/85/agentType/View/PropertyID/574/customFieldIDs/1/Default.aspx?SearchValues=Cultural+Heritage --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:51, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::Or in Outreach http://www.pathfindersonline.org/honors/outreach-ministries/257-cultural-heritage but this page says "Category: Outreach (NAD) / Arts Crafts, & Hobbies (GC)" and the image is a Arts & Crafts background. Confused yet?  I'm half a mind to earn it and order it from somewhere and be surprised by the color-my wife (and kids) are native from Borneo so if I do the research for her area the answers will make total sense, not so much so for British Columbia where we don't have traditional wear or bride prices. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
-==Patch Photo Updates==
+Hi there,
+It's been awhile since I have been on here. I noticed many conferences are setting up Online Pathfinder honors (Video/Slideshow) Some require registration and others are being uploaded on youtube, vimeo or other websites. I was wondering what would be the best option to have this linked into a list? Where Pathfinders can watch the video's with the registration link to the conference or something. I would love to talk more on this idea via e-mail or messenger or something else to brainstorm.
-The wiki shows Dressmaking and Advanced patches with Red/Vocational backgrounds but I believe they are (maybe again) Household Arts/Golden [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:43, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
+This is currently what is available online coming up.
-:Maybe BLueScifiWorm can help as I just awarded her one of these.  Cailin, if you could remove the advanced star from it, take its picture, and upload it here, that would fix it.  I'd do it, but I don't have a patch any more! --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 12:06, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
+[https://kvisit.com/qwI/nvuuAQ Pathfinder Calendar]
-::Can you take it from here? http://www.pathfindersonline.org/es/honors/household-arts/13-dressmaking [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 18:31, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
+--[[User:Ixoekea|Ixoekea]] ([[User talk:Ixoekea|talk]]) 22:19, 11 April 2020 (EDT)
-==SPD Honors==
+:We've noticed this too, and we're exploring possibilities. If you look in [[User:Jomegat/Do at home]] we have a list we're building of honors that can be done at home. That index is in my user space right now because it's not ready for prime-time. We might feature the index on the main page, or we might create a dedicated page for it. I'd love to hear any ideas you have - you can just put ideas on this page if you want, or even prototype something in your own user space and we could discuss it there.. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 16:39, 12 April 2020 (EDT)
-These SPD honors are not represented in the wiki yet:
-* http://honours.adventistconnect.org/master Zoology Master
+:: What I'm wondering is I currently have a facebook group active but the amount of Honor's being videoed by different conferences is starting to become a lot. Like 3 conferences have done Peacemaking, 2 have done firesafety. There is about 20 so far in video's, with this pandemic going for awhile. I could see more and more conferences designing new video's. I know our conference is talking about it. What I am wondering is should these video's be merged into here somehow or would it be best to come up with another site all on Teaching (video's, powerpoint, etc) The video's do have registration links to the conference main site. Maybe link those video's back to here for the honor answer book. I'm just trying to figure out something to merge it all together. I'm open to any suggestions. The Calendar has been the best idea yet for whats coming. But I'm still kinda lost on a video database for the honors. I am thinking of a streaming setup for the videos. Just not sure where to start.
-* http://honours.adventistconnect.org/folk-art-1 (new one) [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 06:00, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
+--[[User:Ixoekea|Ixoekea]] ([[User talk:Ixoekea|talk]]) 22:22, 12 April 2020 (EDT)
+== Online Honor Videos ==
+Hi all,
+My name is Pr Phil Yates from the Greater Sydney Conference (where I am one of the Youth Director and Pathfinder Director for the conference). I am so appreciative for THIS Pathfinder Website, it has helped and continues to help all of use Pathfinder Leaders down under in Australia and New Zealand.
+I have started Online honors for the Australian Union Conference and am presenting honors for the British Union Conference due to this COVID-19 lockdown everywhere - below is the YouTube Channel.
+https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQLzp8Fp2QbMXY8keb5rrYg?view_as=subscriber
+Along with this I do a worksheet and Certificate, once the Pathfinders have show evidence of completion.
+We have found that a lot of clubs across Australia are using it in there Pathfinder Zoom Meeting and Pathfinders are doing the Honors in there spare time.
+This channel is still in its infancy as I have only completed 5 honors - I am planning to release an honor every week.
+What I have done so far has received great feedback.
+Below is the dropbox with the sample worksheet and certificate.
+https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0marrqlhy2emf8b/AACuCNbWy5kUyQ11S6jmUCCGa?dl=0
+I would be interested in you feedback.
+I would also be keen to help you all as much as I can.
+Blessings to all
+Phil