Talk:AY Honors/Language Study/Answer Key

Question on French

Which one is more accurate? w126jep,Jomegat

-Pledge & Law on here-

   Avec l'aide de Dieu, 
   avec votre aide et dans la joie, 
   je veux être le serviteur de Dieu, 
   je veux respecter et aimer les autres, 
   je veux observer la loi des Explorateur J.A. 
   et en approfondir les valeurs. 
   With the help of God, 
   with your help and joy, 
   I want to be the servant of God, 
   I want to respect and love others, 
   I want to observe the Law of Explorers J.A. and deepen its values.

   Rencontrer Dieu chaque jour dans la prière et l'étude de la Bible.
   Respecter le lieu où, ensemble, nous adorons Dieu.
   Être droits et sincère.
   Être attentifs aux autres pour les aider.
   Être purs dans nos pensées, nos paroles et nos actes.
   Prendre soin de notre corps et dire non à tout ce qui le détruit (tabac, alcool, drogue, etc...)
   Aimer la nature, la respecter et la protéger activement.
   Meet God every day in prayer and study of the Bible.
   Respect where we together worship God.
   Be upright and sincere.
   Be attentive to others to help them.
   Be pure in our thoughts, words and deeds.
   Take care of our body and say no to everything that destroys it (tobacco, alcohol, drugs, etc ...)
   To love nature, to respect it and to protect it actively.

-Pledge & Law converted from French to English-

   Par la grace de Dieu
   Je serai pur, bon et loyal
   J'observerai la loi des J.A.
   Je serai un serviteur de Dieu et l'ami de tous

   Observer la virgile matinale
   Accomplir fidelement mon devoir
   Prendre soin de mon corps
   Etre franc et sincere
   Etre courtois et obeissant
   Reverer le lieu du culte
   Etre toujours joyeux
   Etre toujours au service de Dieu

--Ixoekea (talk)

If you look at the French Record Journal for the Friend class, on page 16, they have the second version you put up. I would go with that version since that is the one that is in the official NAD journal. Are you fluent in French, Ixoekea? w126jep (talk) 12:44, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Thanks, Thought I would double check as the honor has the first one listed. I'm not fluent in french no, I know a little bit but it came across while I'm working on my Guide. --Ixoekea (talk) 18:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

German Pledge and Law:

I'm working with my Guide class on requirements, and I have two Pathfinders wanting to do German. It looks to me like the German Pledge and Law are incorrect, and the Law looks like its from a federal government program rather than the Adventist Pathfinders. I went onto the Adventist Youth site in German, and they have a very different pledge and law. I'll put URLs below. I'm not familiar with German much at all, just used Google Translate, but I'd trust the Adventist Youth site better: Pledge: https://adventjugend.de/fileadmin/adventjugend.de/adventjugend.de/unsere_arbeit/cpa/cpa_unsere_arbeit_2020_01_09_cpa_versprechen.pdf Law: https://adventjugend.de/fileadmin/adventjugend.de/adventjugend.de/unsere_arbeit/cpa/cpa_unsere_arbeit_2020_01_09_cpa_regeln.pdf --TimmyBaze (talk) 03:47, 26 February 2023 (UTC) Also, according to this website, the French pledge and law are quite different too: https://www.aj-ja.be/ja/explos/pedagogie/ --TimmyBaze (talk) 04:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Timmy! I would suggest using the German version from the German webpages; I believe someone originally just tried translating the Pledge and Law using an online translator, so the German website would be more accurate.

As far as French, the Union in France and Belgium do not use the same translation as the North American Division. The French spoken in the NAD is more geared towards Canadian French, as Quebec is in this division. The European version will probably differ. --w126jep (talk) 20:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a Pathfinder Club Director from Austria. Here in the German speaking countries (Switzerland, Germany, Austria) the Pathfinder Ministry and how it is structured is a bit different than in the rest of the world. Some Countries are developing there own resources and the one that you found is one of them.

In Austria, they tried to just translate it, so I suggest using that one.

Pledge

Durch Gottes Hilfe will ich

* in Gedanken, Worten und Taten rein sein.

* freundlich und aufrichtig sein und die ADWA-Regeln beachten.

* Gott dienen und ein Freund der Menschen sein.

Law

Ich will

* täglich Morgenandacht machen

* meine Aufgaben ehrlich erfüllen

* auf meinen Körper achten

* mir ein reines Gewissen bewahren

* höflich und gehorsam sein

* mich im Gotteshaus ehrfurchtsvoll

* verhalten die Freude, die Jesus mir schenkt,

* weitergeben Gottes Aufträge ausführen