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| − | After a push on these Honors we are down to three incomplete honors, with about 11 total questions to still answer. We should keep plugging away at the remaining tough questions so we can put the whole category to 100% soon! Jomegat, (and anyone else) you want to look over the honors in this category and double check them for reasonableness and completeness? [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 16:22, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
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| − | :I have been checking, and I like what you've done so far. Thanks! --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 18:43, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
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| − | ==Outreach== | + | == Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers Update and Updated Honors Workbook == |
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| − | These honors are getting close to finished too. I brought all 9 ADRA honors back into the navigation system and have nearly finished off the ACS honors now. Peacemaker and Advanced are outstanding. African American Adventist Heritage in NAD and Advanced are the main sticklers. Be real nice to get these to 100% too. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 16:22, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
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| − | ==Accounting==
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| − | I've added a few things to the [http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Accounting Accounting] honor under requirement 3. The info is taken from Wikipedia. I've linked in the Honor entry to the particular articles. If you could import the Edit history for those two items, I would appreciate it :) [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 12:45, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
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| − | :I've exported the WP articles to my laptop and will import them later (when the innernets at my house are not so busy). --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 15:50, 2 September 2013 (EDT) | |
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| − | ==Miscategorized?==
| + | 1) I have 2 honors workbook, one from 2000 (or so) and one from 2014. However, there have been some new honors added since 2014 (i.e. Mobile Technology honor, in 2016). Is there an updated honor workbook coming to include the newer honors from 2014 onward, such as the Mobile Technology honor (and others)? |
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| − | I believe that the childcare honor is incorrectly catagorized in this wiki. The background of the patch matches Outreach not Health and Science which is were it sits now. It also seems a better fit in outreach along side sign language and other service oriented honors. I do not know how to move it. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 16:41, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
| + | 2) The current Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers website isn't updated to reflect a lot of the newer honors, even the 2014 Honors book. Will the Wikibooks website be updated anytime soon? |
| − | :You were right. The GC has it categorized with Outreach. The NAD always put these under "Division" honors which I never liked. I had to guess which one it was way back when the wiki was set up, and I got it wrong. I have moved it. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]]
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| − | http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Outreach/Cultural_Heritage may be incorrectly categorized as well. It is a gray background reflecting its inclusion in Heritage. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 06:15, 20 May 2013 (EDT)
| + | If we are to broaden our young people's minds and help them grow, us leaders to keep up with the pace and bring everything up-to-date. |
| − | :The Heritage category does not yet officially exist, even though there are some honors that have been approved and are in that category. I don't think that situation will change until next February at the earliest. I don't think we should move any existing honors into it until the NAD makes a decision. I can well imagine several honors that belong here:
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| − | *All the "Lore" honors
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| − | *African American Heritage in the NAD & Advanced
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| − | *Anything else with "heritage" in the title.
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| − | :I think the greyness of its background is an artifact of photography rather than an intentional color change. As far as I know, there are no honor patches yet with an intentionally grey background. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:47, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::: except for the Florida Conference honors, which are found here: http://www.floridaconference.com/iym/pathfinders/honors/(unsigned comment by [[User:98.242.149.225]]
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| − | ::Not disagreeing with you, but I know an elderly MG with gray background vocational patches. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::Another complication is that the Cultural Heritage honor is an SPD honor, so the NAD doesn't really have a say in what color its background is, or what category it belongs to. Has the SPD adopted a Heritage category? --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:49, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Not according to their sites as far as I can find.[[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::: According to the GC, it belongs in Arts & Crafts. http://gcyouthministries.org/Ministries/Pathfinders/Honors/tabid/85/agentType/View/PropertyID/574/customFieldIDs/1/Default.aspx?SearchValues=Cultural+Heritage --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:51, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Or in Outreach http://www.pathfindersonline.org/honors/outreach-ministries/257-cultural-heritage but this page says "Category: Outreach (NAD) / Arts Crafts, & Hobbies (GC)" and the image is a Arts & Crafts background. Confused yet? I'm half a mind to earn it and order it from somewhere and be surprised by the color-my wife (and kids) are native from Borneo so if I do the research for her area the answers will make total sense, not so much so for British Columbia where we don't have traditional wear or bride prices. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::I ordered the Cultural Heritage patch from Florida Conf. and have it in hand. Clearly an Arts and Crafts background. Should we move it? How? [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 16:27, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
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| − | :::I moved it. Along the top of the screen is a "down" triangle next to the "View history" tab. That contains a "move" feature. I made it leave a redirect behind in case anyone has bookmarked it in its old place. I also updated the Outreach & A&C pages to move the honor, and updated the master index on the main AYHAB page as well. Oops - I still need to change the category in the honor header, but I'll do that in a second... --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 18:51, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Same problem for Maori Lore. I did all the above steps to move it from Outreach to Arts&Crafts (like the other Lore honors) plus updated the honor counts on the catagory and main pages to reflect the two moves. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 22:12, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
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| + | Thanks for the reply! |
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| − | The wiki shows Dressmaking and Advanced patches with Red/Vocational backgrounds but I believe they are (maybe again) Household Arts/Golden [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 05:43, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
| + | :Hi Kris and welcome to the Wiki! Great questions. Here are my responses, you might get other responses from others too: |
| − | :Maybe BLueScifiWorm can help as I just awarded her one of these. Cailin, if you could remove the advanced star from it, take its picture, and upload it here, that would fix it. I'd do it, but I don't have a patch any more! --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 12:06, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::Can you take it from here? http://www.pathfindersonline.org/es/honors/household-arts/13-dressmaking or http://www.flpathfinderstore.com/Dressmaking--ADVANCED--PF-NAD_p_8321.html [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 18:31, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | :::I could, but I'd rather teach you how to do it. First step is to download the photo to your computer. Then look for the "Upload file" link in the left pane of most any page on the wiki and click it. Browse to the copy of the image on your PC, come up with a file name for the wiki, in this case "Dressmaking_Honor.png", assuming your downloaded copy is a .png file. If it's not, you could either convert it, or you could name it Dressmaking_Honor.jpg (or whatever) and change the honor to use that instead of the old one. There is a pulldown menu where you can select the license, and the correct choice there is the "PF insignia" one. That's pretty much it. It might complain about the file already existing, but you should be able to override that. Let me know if these instructions were sufficient! --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 23:28, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Perfect instructions - all done. I added a Golden version of the basic honor and replaced the red version of the advanced honor. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 02:31, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | :::::Nice work! I'm a bit overwhelmed this week with some major projects, but maybe next week I will have some time to pitch in more here. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 07:19, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::All the edit logs show you have contributed vastly to this project. Don't feel bad! [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 11:48, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::: Woops! Didn't see this till now! Guess I need to pay more attention. Haha! Glad you got it sorted though! [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 00:27, 6 June 2013 (EDT)
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| + | :1) The two workbooks you have, are they from the General Conference or from Advent''Source''? I ask because the GC Honors has not been updated since their last 2014 edition. However, Advent''Source'' prints material specifically for the North American Division and usually has their material up to date, according to the NAD. I would not know when the GC plans to update their material, especially since Andrés Peralta took over as the new world leader for clubs and is still trying to learn as much as he can. Many times the GC & NAD requirements can differ, so that might also be a discrepancy you also see; this wouldn't necessarily mean one is outdated, only that different versions exist according to their region. |
| − | These SPD honors are not represented in the wiki yet:
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| − | * <s>http://honours.adventistconnect.org/master Zoology Master</s> Done
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| − | * <s>http://honours.adventistconnect.org/folk-art-1</s> (new one)Done [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 06:00, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | * <s>ttp://honours.adventistconnect.org/hiking-2 </s>for which you would just add a star to your hiking patch when earned.
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| − | ::I've never even heard of either of those. Must be pretty new? [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 00:30, 6 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | :::The South Pacific Division (SPD) has their own set of honors. Over the past five years or so they have been going through each one, reviewing it, and if necessary modifying it to fit their needs. http://honours.adventistconnect.org is SPD's http://www.pathfindersonline.org
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| − | :::They also have introduced several of their own (such as Folk Art 1 - which implies the existence or at least a plan to introduce Folk Art 2). Divisions routinely introduce new honors, and then the GC committee reviews them. If they are not ''too'' region specific, they approve them for world-wide use. | + | :2) This Wiki Answer Book is actually the most updated honors resource in the world. It is comprised of volunteers within the Pathfinder community who are constantly updating the content and keeping it to the day. If you are referring to the previous [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book Wikibooks] version, that is the old site and is no longer maintained. There is a message on the front page stating that it was moved to this Wiki. |
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| − | :::SPD was the first division to officially recognize the wiki. They incorporated lots of content from it into their official resources. They link to the wiki (at its old location - I should send them an email) but made static copies of the content for their official documentation. It was pretty cool back when it happened (and still is). --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 06:44, 6 June 2013 (EDT) | + | :I hope that helps clarify some things for you. If you still have some doubts, express them here and myself and others will answer to the best of our knowledge! --[[User:W126jep|w126jep]] ([[User talk:W126jep|talk]]) 00:58, 26 May 2019 (EDT) |
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| − | ::::That is pretty cool! I sent an email to the people at the YPAC site, letting them know the wikibooks project they linked to was now here. Would be cool if SPD linked here too. [[User:Bluescifiworm|Bluescifiworm]] 07:56, 6 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | What do you guys think of creating a field guide here? It would be an enormous undertaking, but I think it would be pretty cool to have one. It could have information on birds, flowers, mammals, sharks - basically every kind of species one needs to identify to get an honor.
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| − | I would organize it so that every species was on a different page, and could be added to several categories depending on where they live. In other words, we could have an entry for Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale), and it would belong to regional categories for all 50 US states, plus the Canadian provinces where it grows, etc. It would belong to a single category for its species or genus, and that category would belong to its own family category, which would belong to its order, etc.
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| − | For Edible Wild Plants, we could add edibility categories (edible tuber, edible greens, etc - as per the EWP honor requirements).
| + | Hi there, |
| | + | It's been awhile since I have been on here. I noticed many conferences are setting up Online Pathfinder honors (Video/Slideshow) Some require registration and others are being uploaded on youtube, vimeo or other websites. I was wondering what would be the best option to have this linked into a list? Where Pathfinders can watch the video's with the registration link to the conference or something. I would love to talk more on this idea via e-mail or messenger or something else to brainstorm. |
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| − | With all these categories set up, it would be a piece of cake to then create a dynamic field guide for a given area and subject. By using templates, each species could be presented in a uniform way (which we already do).
| + | This is currently what is available online coming up. |
| | + | [https://kvisit.com/qwI/nvuuAQ Pathfinder Calendar] |
| | + | --[[User:Ixoekea|Ixoekea]] ([[User talk:Ixoekea|talk]]) 22:19, 11 April 2020 (EDT) |
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| − | Thoughts? --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 08:28, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
| + | :We've noticed this too, and we're exploring possibilities. If you look in [[User:Jomegat/Do at home]] we have a list we're building of honors that can be done at home. That index is in my user space right now because it's not ready for prime-time. We might feature the index on the main page, or we might create a dedicated page for it. I'd love to hear any ideas you have - you can just put ideas on this page if you want, or even prototype something in your own user space and we could discuss it there.. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] ([[User talk:Jomegat|talk]]) 16:39, 12 April 2020 (EDT) |
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| − | :I don't have the Wiki skills to set it up, but it sounds like a good plan. Would we be duplicating an existing online effort? Would this detract from completing answers for remaining unfinished honors? [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 00:29, 17 June 2013 (EDT) | + | :: What I'm wondering is I currently have a facebook group active but the amount of Honor's being videoed by different conferences is starting to become a lot. Like 3 conferences have done Peacemaking, 2 have done firesafety. There is about 20 so far in video's, with this pandemic going for awhile. I could see more and more conferences designing new video's. I know our conference is talking about it. What I am wondering is should these video's be merged into here somehow or would it be best to come up with another site all on Teaching (video's, powerpoint, etc) The video's do have registration links to the conference main site. Maybe link those video's back to here for the honor answer book. I'm just trying to figure out something to merge it all together. I'm open to any suggestions. The Calendar has been the best idea yet for whats coming. But I'm still kinda lost on a video database for the honors. I am thinking of a streaming setup for the videos. Just not sure where to start. |
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| − | ::It might be better to do this at Wikibooks instead of here. They already have some of the meat but not much in the way of bones. In other words, they have articles grouped by major categories (birds, reptiles, etc) but do not have the category system in place. I have a lot of printed field guides, and every single one of them is aimed at a particular region. To create a universal FG we would ''have'' to be able to narrow it down by region. I'll think about this some more before acting. Maybe, I'll think about it for a long time. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 08:06, 17 June 2013 (EDT)
| + | --[[User:Ixoekea|Ixoekea]] ([[User talk:Ixoekea|talk]]) 22:22, 12 April 2020 (EDT) |
| − | :::This sounds like a massive job and duplicative of the printed field guides in existence. I just came back from a trip - much of it without internet access. Tried to ID some flowers and trees and really wished I'd brought a field guide. Practically field guides are meant to be taken to the field so they don't work well online. [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 11:58, 17 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ::::I have sometimes had better luck with online FG's, as they are searchable. In these days of smartphones, I expect online FG's to be very fieldable. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 17:47, 17 June 2013 (EDT)
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| − | ==images with issues== | + | == Online Honor Videos == |
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| − | I cant get the image for Bones R5 to display. What am I doing wrong? [[User:JadeDragon|JadeDragon]] 20:19, 18 June 2013 (EDT) | + | Hi all, |
| − | :You weren't doing anything wrong, it was me. A while back, when anyone would click the upload tool at Wikibooks, it would upload an image to the WB wiki. Later, they switched it so that images would be loaded to the Commons by default instead. I first answered this honor on Wikibooks before they made the switch, so the upload went to WB instead of the Commons. I'll move it here, and everything should work. --[[User:Jomegat|Jomegat]] 08:40, 19 June 2013 (EDT) | + | |
| | + | My name is Pr Phil Yates from the Greater Sydney Conference (where I am one of the Youth Director and Pathfinder Director for the conference). I am so appreciative for THIS Pathfinder Website, it has helped and continues to help all of use Pathfinder Leaders down under in Australia and New Zealand. |
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| | + | I have started Online honors for the Australian Union Conference and am presenting honors for the British Union Conference due to this COVID-19 lockdown everywhere - below is the YouTube Channel. |
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| | + | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQLzp8Fp2QbMXY8keb5rrYg?view_as=subscriber |
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| | + | Along with this I do a worksheet and Certificate, once the Pathfinders have show evidence of completion. |
| | + | We have found that a lot of clubs across Australia are using it in there Pathfinder Zoom Meeting and Pathfinders are doing the Honors in there spare time. |
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| | + | This channel is still in its infancy as I have only completed 5 honors - I am planning to release an honor every week. |
| | + | What I have done so far has received great feedback. |
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| | + | Below is the dropbox with the sample worksheet and certificate. |
| | + | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0marrqlhy2emf8b/AACuCNbWy5kUyQ11S6jmUCCGa?dl=0 |
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| | + | I would be interested in you feedback. |
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| | + | I would also be keen to help you all as much as I can. |
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| | + | Blessings to all |
| | + | Phil |
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Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers Update and Updated Honors Workbook
Hello all,
2 questions:
1) I have 2 honors workbook, one from 2000 (or so) and one from 2014. However, there have been some new honors added since 2014 (i.e. Mobile Technology honor, in 2016). Is there an updated honor workbook coming to include the newer honors from 2014 onward, such as the Mobile Technology honor (and others)?
2) The current Wikibooks Pathfinder Honor Answers website isn't updated to reflect a lot of the newer honors, even the 2014 Honors book. Will the Wikibooks website be updated anytime soon?
If we are to broaden our young people's minds and help them grow, us leaders to keep up with the pace and bring everything up-to-date.
Thanks for the reply!
~ Kris
- Hi Kris and welcome to the Wiki! Great questions. Here are my responses, you might get other responses from others too:
- 1) The two workbooks you have, are they from the General Conference or from AdventSource? I ask because the GC Honors has not been updated since their last 2014 edition. However, AdventSource prints material specifically for the North American Division and usually has their material up to date, according to the NAD. I would not know when the GC plans to update their material, especially since Andrés Peralta took over as the new world leader for clubs and is still trying to learn as much as he can. Many times the GC & NAD requirements can differ, so that might also be a discrepancy you also see; this wouldn't necessarily mean one is outdated, only that different versions exist according to their region.
- 2) This Wiki Answer Book is actually the most updated honors resource in the world. It is comprised of volunteers within the Pathfinder community who are constantly updating the content and keeping it to the day. If you are referring to the previous Wikibooks version, that is the old site and is no longer maintained. There is a message on the front page stating that it was moved to this Wiki.
- I hope that helps clarify some things for you. If you still have some doubts, express them here and myself and others will answer to the best of our knowledge! --w126jep (talk) 00:58, 26 May 2019 (EDT)
E-Honors
Hi there,
It's been awhile since I have been on here. I noticed many conferences are setting up Online Pathfinder honors (Video/Slideshow) Some require registration and others are being uploaded on youtube, vimeo or other websites. I was wondering what would be the best option to have this linked into a list? Where Pathfinders can watch the video's with the registration link to the conference or something. I would love to talk more on this idea via e-mail or messenger or something else to brainstorm.
This is currently what is available online coming up.
Pathfinder Calendar
--Ixoekea (talk) 22:19, 11 April 2020 (EDT)
- We've noticed this too, and we're exploring possibilities. If you look in User:Jomegat/Do at home we have a list we're building of honors that can be done at home. That index is in my user space right now because it's not ready for prime-time. We might feature the index on the main page, or we might create a dedicated page for it. I'd love to hear any ideas you have - you can just put ideas on this page if you want, or even prototype something in your own user space and we could discuss it there.. --Jomegat (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2020 (EDT)
- What I'm wondering is I currently have a facebook group active but the amount of Honor's being videoed by different conferences is starting to become a lot. Like 3 conferences have done Peacemaking, 2 have done firesafety. There is about 20 so far in video's, with this pandemic going for awhile. I could see more and more conferences designing new video's. I know our conference is talking about it. What I am wondering is should these video's be merged into here somehow or would it be best to come up with another site all on Teaching (video's, powerpoint, etc) The video's do have registration links to the conference main site. Maybe link those video's back to here for the honor answer book. I'm just trying to figure out something to merge it all together. I'm open to any suggestions. The Calendar has been the best idea yet for whats coming. But I'm still kinda lost on a video database for the honors. I am thinking of a streaming setup for the videos. Just not sure where to start.
--Ixoekea (talk) 22:22, 12 April 2020 (EDT)
Online Honor Videos
Hi all,
My name is Pr Phil Yates from the Greater Sydney Conference (where I am one of the Youth Director and Pathfinder Director for the conference). I am so appreciative for THIS Pathfinder Website, it has helped and continues to help all of use Pathfinder Leaders down under in Australia and New Zealand.
I have started Online honors for the Australian Union Conference and am presenting honors for the British Union Conference due to this COVID-19 lockdown everywhere - below is the YouTube Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQLzp8Fp2QbMXY8keb5rrYg?view_as=subscriber
Along with this I do a worksheet and Certificate, once the Pathfinders have show evidence of completion.
We have found that a lot of clubs across Australia are using it in there Pathfinder Zoom Meeting and Pathfinders are doing the Honors in there spare time.
This channel is still in its infancy as I have only completed 5 honors - I am planning to release an honor every week.
What I have done so far has received great feedback.
Below is the dropbox with the sample worksheet and certificate.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0marrqlhy2emf8b/AACuCNbWy5kUyQ11S6jmUCCGa?dl=0
I would be interested in you feedback.
I would also be keen to help you all as much as I can.
Blessings to all
Phil
