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Years Honors Introduced

Hi, Ixoekea, I noticed you were able to add the years of introduction to many of the honors that were missing them. Do you mind sharing where you found the information? I've been trying to find that info for a long time! Thanks! --w126jep (talk) 22:37, 13 November 2016 (UTC)'

//Hi w126jep I found them under Plusline\(Honor Search) on Adventsource. Here is an example of : Aboriginal Lore Bottom Left corner of document says 2001.
I think there may be a discrepancy for Triathlon(Advanced) AdventSource says 2001. This website says 1956. I looked in our Recreation honour hard copy 6th edition from 1998 and Triathlon is not located in the honour book.
I also sent an inquire to the Australia Division on the skill level and the years of the missing information on the Australia honours such as [Australian Birds and Land and Freshwater Mollusks] that are missing that information. We actually just finished the Australian Birds honour in our club last week. Ixoekea (talk) 01:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that clarification, Ixoekea! I see that the PDFs provided by AdventSource do indeed provide that year for these honors. However, I believe what that year is referring to is the edition of the Honors Manual, not the year the honor was introduced. Whenever honor requirements are updated, the manual will include the year they were updated. Also, the edition year will be stated when an honor has now been included into the NAD manual from another Division, which is not always the same year it was introduced. I am almost certain many of these honors were created before then. If you look at the list of the ones you updated, many of them are honors that were accepted and added to the NAD manual from another division, which means that they were not necessarily introduced in that year.
Which brings me to some questions: Should the Wiki reflect the year the honor was first introduced into its division or should it list the year it was introduced to the NAD? What about honors adapted from other divisions in one year and accepted a different year into the NAD but with slight changes to the requirements (some SAD & SPD honors, such as Guitar, had their requirements modified before being accepted at GC level, and therefore NAD)? Which year should we list as introduction for those? Or is it better to just show the year the honor first came out? When I read «Year of Introduction», my immediate assumption is the year the honors first came out. Any thoughts? --w126jep (talk) 01:36, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
It's a blurry line. I wouldn't worry too much about it, since it could arguable be categorized as trivia. (But trivia is fun sometimes). --Jomegat (talk) 14:15, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi w126jep I guess I kind of got a head of myself with the information I realized that when I started looking up other honours and the dates were different. Speaking on what you were talking about. What about this idea. Or: (Original date) Rv: (Revised date?) It might give a better idea on which honours have not been updated for awhile and would be considered for updating if someone so choose to put the honour back through for a revised edition. Ixoekea (talk) 00:32, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

I like the idea. I think there would be a way to set it up with a «if x is present, then y appears» type of function. Meaning that the year of the revised edition would only show up if there exists one. That way, those honors which have not needed to be updated won't just have a blank space in the revised date section. --w126jep (talk) 01:34, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Is this something Jomegat would have to put into place? Ixoekea (talk) 01:37, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Replacing images

I noticed you were trying to replace the honor image for Pigeon Raising. I, too, often update images. If you are just updating or replacing an image, you don't have to upload a completely new one. You can take the following steps:

  • Click on the image. This will take you to the page where the image is filed.
  • Scroll down to the file history section.
  • Click on the link «Upload a new version of this file».
  • Upload the replacement file.

This way, you won't have to go and change the link to the image and worry about changing the name.

Also, whenever possible, try to upload images with a transparent background. These files are usually portable network graphics and saved with the extension «.png» instead of «.bmp» or «.jpg». This will prevent the white box or white background from showing up because the background will be transparent. --w126jep (talk) 01:49, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I noticed that when I updated it and than took it off. :) Sorry for all the confusion of me taking part. I'll get the hang of it shortly. Ixoekea (talk) 01:55, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Lol, don't worry, trial and error was the only way I learned too. Don't be too worried about making mistakes. Almost everything can be reverted. So keep working at it, the Wiki always needs contributors. --w126jep (talk) 03:20, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
I followed the steps with updating the patch and it keeps showing this error (File extension ".png" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/jpeg)). What am I doing wrong? I have tried uploading the file in .png from my computer and always .jpg and tried changing the updated file name to .png. Ixoekea (talk) 03:31, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
I got it thanks. It was the user using the computer! ;) Is there a way to delete past images? Ixoekea (talk) 03:42, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Only admins have the ability to delete pages. But if you just ask one of us, we can do it, no prob. --w126jep (talk) 04:03, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
I've got one here for you. I tried updating the patch for Subsistence Farming and it seems to be reverting back to the original file and not the new .png file I uploaded. Are you able to help me out and explain what I'm doing wrong??? Thanks for all the help w126jep Ixoekea (talk) 04:35, 17 November 2016 (UTC)