Talk:Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Retired Insignia

Drawing and Painting

I have the old version of this honor, where it was combined. it was recently split into the Drawing (and Advanced) and Painting (And Advanced) honors. I'll upload a pic of it tomorrow. I do believe the design is still used one of the new (separated) honors. I'll see what else I might have that has old designs. Bluescifiworm (talk) 23:15, 14 June 2016 (EDT)

New Layout

So we have a decent amount of outdated insignia on this page, with which I am pretty pleased. However, due to so many, it now seems pretty cluttered. I am going to brainstorm and see if there is a more visually appealing or user friendly way to present this page. Maybe with the use of thumbnails or something. Any ideas are welcome! --w126jep (talk) 18:41, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

I think t would be easier to use if it were laid out on a grid with nothing but the image and the name. Clicking on the image would take you to the image page, and all the notes could be moved there. I'd also be inclined to arrange them first by shape, and then by background color. --Jomegat (talk) 14:14, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

That is an excellent idea, to sort them by shape and color. It makes sense, since people might be looking for a patch and they would look by appearance, instead of by name. The only issue I foresee with clicking and taking them to the image page is that I cannot translate those. Or at least I've never tried. But I am pretty sure they can't be. I had wanted to also avoid making a bunch of single pages for Outdated honors, just because it would seem like more work to do. But that might be the way to go. --w126jep (talk) 16:42, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Wikimedia Commons puts multiple languages in their image descriptions. See here. I don't think I'd use their "en" template though, as it looks like it adds a lot of complexity and I don't see the benefit it brings to the table. I'd just prefix the English description with English: and the Spanish description with Espanol: (but use the correct n). List the languages alphabetically. --Jomegat (talk) 23:40, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Here's an image with two languages. Took me a bit to find one though. --Jomegat (talk) 23:44, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

One other thing - if we end up going into each of the retired insignia images, it would be a good idea to add them all to a retired insignia category. Then this page could be built using DPL (like the honor indexes). --Jomegat (talk) 23:46, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

I went head and put all the images in a gallery. It was grueling and time-consuming but I think it looks much better now. I had preferred the gallery mode of "packed-hover", but I don't think it would work well for mobile use. I tried to arrange them by color and shape as mentioned previously. And they are all included in categories as well. --w126jep (talk) 18:31, 5 October 2018 (EDT)

Nice! --Jomegat (talk) 18:44, 5 October 2018 (EDT)

New Patches

I had an acquaintance recently visit Dixie and Arnold's traveling history museum and he was able to take quite a few pictures of some of the older honor versions. There's still a few more, but those are the diamond-shaped ones that were originally taught at summer camps. Just thought I'd mention where I'm getting these images from. --w126jep (talk) 21:02, 5 December 2018 (EST)

I was going to ask! --Jomegat (talk) 23:33, 5 December 2018 (EST)

Renaming of category

I was thinking about renaming this section from "Retired Insignia" to "Outdated Insignia". "Retired" sounds as if it was once the official version and then replaced. That is true for many of these cases, but some of them are misprints or errors. I think "Outdated" encompasses these categories better, as it simply means "no longer in use" or "not in circulation", regardless of the reason. --w126jep (talk) 14:24, 10 May 2019 (EDT)