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Access Issue

how come I can't create login Im from Olney SDA and it wont let me create


Haryl Linzau hossl2@verizon.net

Hi Haryl,
I don't have enough information to give you a reason for this. It's possible the IP address has been blocked. Can you tell me the IP address of Olney SDA so I can look into it? If that's the issue, you should be able to create an account from elsewhere and login with it anywhere. Or if the IP has been blocked, I could look into unblocking it (though if it is blocked, it would have been for a reason). --Jomegat 18:28, 19 January 2013 (EST)

Adventurer Awards

Is there any plan to bring over the Adventurer/Eager Beaver/Little Lamb material from Wikibooks too? I don't know how to import, but I a working through Little Lambs with my girl now and adding missing info as we go on Wikibooks. JadeDragon 17:36, 25 February 2013 (EST)

I brought this up to the NAD when I proposed having them host this material here. They said "Let's wait and see how it goes." I will bring it up in Lincoln next week, because I think it's going pretty well. Other things I would like to add to this Wiki are the PF Staff Manual and MG Manual. There are so many advantages to hosting this material on a wiki that it seems an obvious move to me. In fact, if you have a copy of the old AY Instructor's Manual, they have a note in there explaining why the pages are numbered the way they are, and why it is in a 3-ring binder - so that people could add things to it. A Wiki is really the ideal way to do that, as people from all over the world can share ideas, vs individual directors keeping their own notes with no way of sharing that info.
As for importing, you have to be an admin for that to be an available option. --Jomegat 21:41, 25 February 2013 (EST)
The Wikibooks project is also the precursor to what exists here. The more up-to-date info as far as Pathfinder stuff is listed here. I really hope the NAD does approve the move to host Adventurer/Eager Beaver/Little Lamb Awards here as well. It would help to have it all in one place. -- Bluescifiworm 08:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)

Staff Manuals?

Any news on whether adding the staff manuals here has been approved? I hope so! It will make it so much easier to find information instead of having to wait to flip through the Manual when you are at a meeting. Bluescifiworm 08:28, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

The NAD moves deliberately rather than quickly. When things settle down (for me) I'll bring it up. --Jomegat 20:07, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
Awesome. It would be great to have it all in one place. Hope things settle down for you soon! Bluescifiworm 22:43, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

Registered Users

From my short time here it seems that registered users make 95% of the real edits. This spam stinks. Can be just leave it on registered users and maybe even expand the question from links only to add edits? JadeDragon 18:05, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, the spam was rather rank. I started a new job today and didn't have time to deal with it. I thought disabling anon edits would be the way to go. I'm hesitant to make that permanent because of the 5% (maybe less) of legitimate edits made by IP users. I will NOT turn that on again until I am able to monitor it closely though.
I'm not sure what you meant by the "expand the question" remark, so clarification would be very helpful to me. --Jomegat 20:01, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
Congrats on the new job! I mean set things so that every edit (not just ones with an external link) require typing SDA. That will kill off all the automated edits, and all the spam I killed had to be automated and completely pointless. JadeDragon 21:05, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
Thanks. I don't think the MediaWiki software (which is what we are using) has a setting like that. But I'll look into it. As for today's spam storm, I'm pretty sure we were hit by a zombie network - PC's that have been infected by a virus and now answer to a botmaster. I would expect we were not the only ones hit. I blocked 23 IPs. --Jomegat 21:29, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
Ah - yes, it does allow that. I just have to configure it. I'll work on that tonight. --Jomegat 21:39, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
Testing as an anonymous user...
And... it works. :-)
The captcha will only be asked for anon users. Registered users have "skip captcha" permissions. The anonymous masses are now allowed to edit this wiki again, but only after correctly answering the captcha. We'll see how that goes. --Jomegat 21:47, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

My goodness! glad you guys were around to catch it. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know. Bluescifiworm 22:42, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

I'm loving the new protection level. No SPAM now and as a registered user no need to answer the CAPTCHA question. It is a wonderful thing. BTW I answered a few remaining questions so was able to move Nature Honors to 100% !!! Thanks to everyone who worked so hard on this section (I just did a little of it). JadeDragon
Thanks for suggesting the fix. I am pretty pleased that the spam level dropped to zero. I had forgotten that I had installed the ConfirmEdit extension (which is what asks the SDA question). As for the Nature category, thanks for bringing it back to 100%. I had gotten it there a couple of years ago, but then the NAD introduced several new honors. But since the Wiki is an official arm of the NAD now, it should never be less than 100% again for very long. --Jomegat 07:28, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

Miscategorized?

I believe that the childcare honor is incorrectly catagorized in this wiki. The background of the patch matches Outreach not Health and Science which is were it sits now. It also seems a better fit in outreach along side sign language and other service oriented honors. I do not know how to move it. JadeDragon 16:41, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

You were right. The GC has it categorized with Outreach. The NAD always put these under "Division" honors which I never liked. I had to guess which one it was way back when the wiki was set up, and I got it wrong. I have moved it. --Jomegat

http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Outreach/Cultural_Heritage may be incorrectly categorized as well. It is a gray background reflecting its inclusion in Heritage. JadeDragon 06:15, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

The Heritage category does not yet officially exist, even though there are some honors that have been approved and are in that category. I don't think that situation will change until next February at the earliest. I don't think we should move any existing honors into it until the NAD makes a decision. I can well imagine several honors that belong here:
  • All the "Lore" honors
  • African American Heritage in the NAD & Advanced
  • Anything else with "heritage" in the title.
I think the greyness of its background is an artifact of photography rather than an intentional color change. As far as I know, there are no honor patches yet with an intentionally grey background. --Jomegat 17:47, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
Not disagreeing with you, but I know an elderly MG with gray background vocational patches. JadeDragon 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
Another complication is that the Cultural Heritage honor is an SPD honor, so the NAD doesn't really have a say in what color its background is, or what category it belongs to. Has the SPD adopted a Heritage category? --Jomegat 17:49, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
Not according to their sites as far as I can find.JadeDragon 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
According to the GC, it belongs in Arts & Crafts. http://gcyouthministries.org/Ministries/Pathfinders/Honors/tabid/85/agentType/View/PropertyID/574/customFieldIDs/1/Default.aspx?SearchValues=Cultural+Heritage --Jomegat 17:51, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
Or in Outreach http://www.pathfindersonline.org/honors/outreach-ministries/257-cultural-heritage but this page says "Category: Outreach (NAD) / Arts Crafts, & Hobbies (GC)" and the image is a Arts & Crafts background. Confused yet? I'm half a mind to earn it and order it from somewhere and be surprised by the color-my wife (and kids) are native from Borneo so if I do the research for her area the answers will make total sense, not so much so for British Columbia where we don't have traditional wear or bride prices. JadeDragon 05:34, 4 June 2013 (EDT)

Patch Photo Updates

The wiki shows Dressmaking and Advanced patches with Red/Vocational backgrounds but I believe they are (maybe again) Household Arts/Golden JadeDragon 05:43, 4 June 2013 (EDT)

Maybe BLueScifiWorm can help as I just awarded her one of these. Cailin, if you could remove the advanced star from it, take its picture, and upload it here, that would fix it. I'd do it, but I don't have a patch any more! --Jomegat 12:06, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
Can you take it from here? http://www.pathfindersonline.org/es/honors/household-arts/13-dressmaking or http://www.flpathfinderstore.com/Dressmaking--ADVANCED--PF-NAD_p_8321.html JadeDragon 18:31, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
I could, but I'd rather teach you how to do it. First step is to download the photo to your computer. Then look for the "Upload file" link in the left pane of most any page on the wiki and click it. Browse to the copy of the image on your PC, come up with a file name for the wiki, in this case "Dressmaking_Honor.png", assuming your downloaded copy is a .png file. If it's not, you could either convert it, or you could name it Dressmaking_Honor.jpg (or whatever) and change the honor to use that instead of the old one. There is a pulldown menu where you can select the license, and the correct choice there is the "PF insignia" one. That's pretty much it. It might complain about the file already existing, but you should be able to override that. Let me know if these instructions were sufficient! --Jomegat 23:28, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
Perfect instructions - all done. I added a Golden version of the basic honor and replaced the red version of the advanced honor. JadeDragon 02:31, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
Nice work! I'm a bit overwhelmed this week with some major projects, but maybe next week I will have some time to pitch in more here. --Jomegat 07:19, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
All the edit logs show you have contributed vastly to this project. Don't feel bad! JadeDragon 11:48, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
Woops! Didn't see this till now! Guess I need to pay more attention. Haha! Glad you got it sorted though! Bluescifiworm 00:27, 6 June 2013 (EDT)

SPD Honors

These SPD honors are not represented in the wiki yet:

I've never even heard of either of those. Must be pretty new? Bluescifiworm 00:30, 6 June 2013 (EDT)
The South Pacific Division (SPD) has their own set of honors. Over the past five years or so they have been going through each one, reviewing it, and if necessary modifying it to fit their needs. http://honours.adventistconnect.org is SPD's http://www.pathfindersonline.org
They also have introduced several of their own (such as Folk Art 1 - which implies the existence or at least a plan to introduce Folk Art 2). Divisions routinely introduce new honors, and then the GC committee reviews them. If they are not too region specific, they approve them for world-wide use.
SPD was the first division to officially recognize the wiki. They incorporated lots of content from it into their official resources. They link to the wiki (at its old location - I should send them an email) but made static copies of the content for their official documentation. It was pretty cool back when it happened (and still is). --Jomegat 06:44, 6 June 2013 (EDT)
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